Thursday, 24 December 2015

QUOTABLE QUTES BY BOB CARR!


This article has been rewritten ex:

http://socialistdystopia.blogspot.com.au/2015/07/seidners-listing-of-media-spin-1-carr.html
31 July 2015
########################################################################################################### SEIDNER’S LISTING OF MEDIA SPIN:
THE QUOTABLE QUOTE
  1. I wrote an article detailing the media spin and worse of Bob Carr – Israel’s chief antagonist.
  2. Here is the blog entry:
  3.  http://socialistdystopia.blogspot.com.au/2014/02/it-is-about-time-greatest-political.html   Dated February 13, 2014
  4. Here is merely one classical outrageous tactic Carr uses and it is the quote from Golda Meir to bash Israel: see below herein.
‘’I know some supporters of Israel would want to point out that there are a range of settlement categories. My response is to quote Israeli prime minister Golda Meir, who once said: “If you’ve got to explain, you’ve lost already.’’



  • Note carefully how much effort is required to uncover it as a scam! An abomenation of clear thinking. EVEN IF THE QUOTE IS 100% CORRECT  - CARR PERVERTS IT BY IT'S VERY USE: SEE BELOW!!****
  • And note how contemptuously easy it was for Carr!
  • And who really understands or wants to understand this debunking? Who will bother reading it?
  • Indeed - who would have read and / or understood my original blog as above - and of course this interpolation*** herein?
  • Come to think of it - who understands the meaning of the word 'interpolation'?
  • Just for the record: Carr and that classical enemy of Israel The Austraslian's John Lyons have now used the outrageous DANIELLA WEISS QUOTE IN MULTIPLE CONTEXT AT LEAST 4 times. Sorry I do not have time to explain.
  • Sigh: who has the time....
  • And here is the classical chimera: Carr is indeed correct on what he quotes.  Inspite - and because of - it is one of the worst examples of deliberate perversion of context because the very quote he raises is indeed an argument for the contrary!

I have gone to a lot of trouble to 

uncover possibly the worst example of a

professional fraudster in mainstream

media. And his arguably most brazen fraud!

Does anyone recall Carr being held to account?


Geoff Seidner


***

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LOOK AT THE ABOMINABLE ABUSE BY CARR OF THE GOLDA MEIR QUOTE. WHICH SURELY IS CORRECT. INDEED GOLDA M. WAS RIGHT IN WHAT SHE SAID; but Carr perverted it!
Effectively inverted it!
And dared to use it to attack Israel.
Truly sickening example of a shameless media fraud - who has like John Lyons - another professional Jew hater has used one of the oldest tricks in the media - the use and abuse of the quotable quote.

This is how the above works:

Take a harmless quote. AS ABOVE.
Note what the author [Golda M]  was effectively saying: that enemies of Israel have it easy in being able to throw lies and disparate distortions around knowing that the Jews will have a job in demolishing the lies because ''IF YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN [THESE LIES] YOU HAVE ALREADY LOST THE ARGUMENT''
Along comes Carr and perverts it: HE IS SHAMELESS!
NOTE THAT I HAVE HAD TO SPEND CONSIDERABLE TIME IN CLARIFU+YING THIS PROFESSIONAL LOW - LIFE'S LIES: AND I AM NOT SURE ANYONE REALLY CARES.
TO WIT THOSE WHO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND INDEED DO NOT NEED THIS ULTRA - DIDACTIC ANALYSIS!
INDEED- IT COULD BE SAID THAT IF ONE HAS TO SPEND SO MUCH TIME AND EFFORT _ AND ARGUABLE SKILL - ONE HAS ALREADY LOST THE ARGUMENT!!
There should be a Truth and Misconduct Commission which would have the job of suing fraudsters like Carr.
Regular dishonesty by Carr is  demonstrable in his articles and speeches on Israel. He should sue me for this alone.
Geoff Seidner


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Wednesday, 21 October 2015

GS FAREWELLS OUTRAGEOUS JWIRE!! RE CENSORING AND H HERZOG!!

 
GS FAREWELLS JWIRE........ RE OUTRAGEOUS UNJUSTIFIED CENSORING OF MY PERSON AND JWIRE'S PUBLICATION  PATHETIC HENRY HERZOG'S SICK REMARKS!!!!

BY THE WAY  MY COMMENTS AS HEREIN WERE ALSO CENSORED!!
Much more of my censored remarks will now be posted on my blog herein!
When time avails.
GS

 
 
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October 20, 2015 by Henry Greener-The Shtick
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Moshe Feiglin’s mild-mannered low-key style is not indicative of the hawkish image that so many opponents of his opinions portray. A video interview from The Shtick’s Henry Greener.
Feiglin is a controversial politician of high impact, starting his own Party in Israel, called Zehut International, wanting to create a new “Identity” for the many disillusioned citizens who may be dissatisfied with the current regime.
His visit to Australia has created some controversy with official communal bodies sending out string messages that some of his views are not welcome.

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  1. Geoff Seidner says:
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    October 21, 2015 11:05 am at 11:05 am
    Consider yourself lucky Michael Barnett that I have decided since the owner of this blog decided to publish the outrageous outpourings of Henry Herzog to make this my last post on JWIRE!
    The below shows posts by Hercog of October 11 and 13.
    http://www.jwire.com.au/rlrvrn-organisations-object-to-feiglin-views/Which were unaccountably published!
    My remonstrations were duly censored!
    I hope the owner of Jwire has the courage to publish this and perhaps explicate his modus vivendi!
    Perhaps / perchance an apology?
    How could he publish Herzog?
    And censor GS??
    ‘Fare thee well’ to those who have thought generously of me.
    I will spend my times elsewhere – especially my own neglected blogs!
    Reply
  2. Michael Barnett says:
    October 20, 2015 9:25 pm at 9:25 pm
    Disappointing that despite the significant coverage in the media surrounding Feiglin’s visit, his views on rights for LGBTIQ people were not explored. His claim that “he has his values” is suggestive of a morality that aligns with orthodoxy and thus would put him outside those who believe in equality under the law for all citizens.
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  3. Robert Weil says:
    October 20, 2015 8:15 pm at 8:15 pm
    Thank you J-Wire for posting this. I hope the NIF, Henry Herzog, Aleph, Jennifer Huppert et al, and all the other Knee-jerk alarmists took the time to watch it and see how unfounded their hysterical rantings were.
    Reply
    • Michael Barnett says:
      October 20, 2015 10:50 pm at 10:50 pm
      As per my previous comment Robert, there is no clearer understanding of Moshe Feiglin’s position on the rights of gay people given that Henry Greener did not ask him about it. That he has gay people in his political party is no evidence that Feiglin believes they should be treated with dignity or respect.
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Henry Herzog says:
October 11, 2015 6:12 pm at 6:12 pm
Perfect example of how those on the right who bleat the loudest about free speech, pluralism and diverisity are the first, and second, ones to want to ban anyone whose views are not perfectly in line with their narrow fearmongering world view.
No one is saying that he shouldn’t be able to express his abhorent points of view, he should be given the same freedom to speak as is Dr Fredrick Toben, David Irving and others on the right. What is really alarming is the intellecturally defectient arguements posed by the right which are based on conspicy theories and fear. Nothing constructive coming from them, just name calling and hatred. And the fact that they urge Israel to take aggressive measures, as a result of which innocent Israelis get murdered, while they and their children remain safe and sound here, is cowardly, but only in my world view.
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Henry Herzog says:
October 13, 2015 8:52 pm at 8:52 pm
I would rather eat glass than listen to your hateful right- wing trash.
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Friday, 16 October 2015

REF H HERZOG... LETTER TO EDITOR today

 THIS LETTER  WILL PROBABLY NOT BE PUBLISHED BECAUSE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO I TOOK THE OZ TO THE PRESS COUNCIL [UNSUCCESSFULLY!!] RE JULIA GILLARD BEING DEPICTED IN A CARTOON BEING STRANGLED BY A STAR OF  DAVID!!
Jan 2013... not available on web
 


Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 12:10 PM
Subject: Outrageous HUMBUG OF HENRY HERZOG
 

LETTER TO EDITOR
The Australian
 
I advise that your letter writer Henry Herzog Deceptive scoring [Letters October 16] has a mere  2 and 3 days ago made the most outrageous of on – line contributions on Jewish Journal Jwire.
Herzog  made many posts recently: the most outrageous of which accuses those who plainly outnumber him on this blog by a factor of probably 20  to 1 of being responsible for the terrorists’ murder of ‘’innocent Israelis’’!
 
And he also somehow makes a similar direct comparison with Jews and with the world’s most outrageous holocaust deniers David  Irving and Frederick Tobin.
 
His other posts are also abysmal: here is one:
Henry Herzog says:
October 13, 2015 8:52 pm at 8:52 pm
I would rather eat glass than listen to your hateful right- wing trash.
Reply
 
Perhaps Mr Herzog will in the nether world be held accountable: but in the interim he could try to explain how he could so outrageously abuse  mainstream Jews via comparisons that fail the basic elements of style. And that is an understatement.
 
Geoff Seidner
13 Alston Gr
East St Kilda 3183
03 9525 9299
 
 
 
Henry Herzog says:
October 11, 2015 6:12 pm at 6:12 pm
Perfect example of how those on the right who bleat the loudest about free speech, pluralism and diverisity are the first, and second, ones to want to ban anyone whose views are not perfectly in line with their narrow fearmongering world view.
No one is saying that he shouldn’t be able to express his abhorent points of view, he should be given the same freedom to speak as is Dr Fredrick Toben, David Irving and others on the right. What is really alarming is the intellecturally defectient arguements posed by the right which are based on conspicy theories and fear. Nothing constructive coming from them, just name calling and hatred. And the fact that they urge Israel to take aggressive measures, as a result of which innocent Israelis get murdered, while they and their children remain safe and sound here, is cowardly, but only in my world view.
Reply
 
Henry Herzog says:
October 13, 2015 8:30 am at 8:30 am
There you go Robert; the comparison is that, those on the right only want to shut down extremist views with which they disagree, e.g. Toben’s and Irving’s, not others like Feiglin who also preach hatred. And going by what your mates are saying about Colin Rubenstein, he also could have caught this leftist disease. I don’t know about this leftist disease being terminal, but the rightist disease has proven to be, as history shows.
Reply
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Henry Herzog says:
October 14, 2015 1:05 pm at 1:05 pm
What happened to the Torah teaching us compassion, kindness and not doing to others what you wouldn’t want done to you? Or would you prefer to go down the path of the jihadists and see only the negatives and how to punish those who you fear?
 
 
Deceptive scoring                                                                                                              When conflict arises between Israel and Palestinians, some media outlets describe Israel’s actions as excessive and/or disproportionate, and give scores on how many have been killed on both sides.
An Israeli security officer shooting dead a knife wielding Palestinian who stabbed him, soon after a number of Israelis were stabbed to death, is condemned as an excessive use of force. If that’s so, how should the shooting death of Numan Haider by police in Melbourne last year — after he had stabbed them — be described?
And giving daily scores on how many have been killed does not give a true picture. If Palestinians weren’t killing civilians, they wouldn’t get killed. Furthermore, no other conflict in the Middle East is scored in this deceptive and biased way.
Henry Herzog, St Kilda, Vic
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Sunday, 6 September 2015

TO PM HUNGARY: CRAPPER FACILITUS CRAPUS: TOILETS FOR REFUGEES

 
 
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 9:49 AM
Subject: HAVE I GOT A DEAL FOR YOU PRIME MINISTER OF HUNGARY
 

 
 
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My Dear Prime Minister Urban ntitkarsag@me.gov.hu
and
Manager McDonalds Hungary,   cheryl.howard@gmail.com
 
 
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I am pleased that your government had the foresight to deregulate the TOILET MARKET See above link.
 
 
It was all so falicitous: you can now manufacture the hundreds of facilities needed by the Muslims camped outside your main railway station Now you will be able to take advantage promptly of the the toilets needed  by the thoughtful, considerate Muslims!
 
I can tell you to move quickly otherwise these wonderful, considerate migrants will move elsewhere: I will soon offer my business skills to Germany as well: Angela Merkel has shown great interest.
FIRST COME FIRST SERVED!
My company  CRAPOLOGY INTERNATIONAL will make itself available at the very competitive price of US $100 per crapper per week in situ.
We will take care of the refuse – selling it to your long – suffering farmers who have long looked for reliable NATURAL MAN – MADE fertilizer.
 
OUR COMPANY’S MOTTO IS INSIGHTFUL:
 
CRAPPER FACILITUS CRAPUS
 
Kindest Regards
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EAST ST KILDA
Melbourne Australia
 
 

Muslim “refugees” flooding Europe, shouting ”Allahu Akbar”

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Aug 26, 2015 - Muslim immigrants shouting “Allahu Akbar” in Hungary. ... most migrants swarming European borders and coastlines do not appear to be in any real or dire need. ..... ON HOW TO GO TO THE TOILET,OR HOW TO HAVE SEX.
 
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adjective
  1. well chosen or suited to the circumstances.
    "a felicitous phrase"
    synonyms: apt, well chosen, well expressed, well put, choice, fitting, suitable,appropriate, apposite, pertinent, germane, to the point, relevant,congruous, apropos; 
    informalspot on
    "his nickname was particularly felicitous"
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
My Dear Prime Minister Orban
SEE EARLIER CORRESPONDENCES BELOW
I have worked it out
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Friday, 31 July 2015

SEIDNER’S LISTING OF MEDIA SPIN #1 CARR AND THE QUOTABLE QUOTE


This commendable article has been improved as per this link on 24 Dec 2015

 http://socialistdystopia.blogspot.com.au/2015/12/quotable-qutes-by-bob-carr.html

############################################################################################################

 SEIDNER’S LISTING OF MEDIA SPIN:
THE QUOTABLE QUOTE
  1. I wrote an article detailing the media spin and worse of Bob Carr – Israel’s chief antagonist.
  2. Here is the blog entry:
  3.  http://socialistdystopia.blogspot.com.au/2014/02/it-is-about-time-greatest-political.html   Dated February 13, 2014
  4. Here is merely one classical outrageous tactic Carr uses and it is the quote from Golda Meir to bash Israel: see below herein.
‘’I know some supporters of Israel would want to point out that there are a range of settlement categories. My response is to quote Israeli prime minister Golda Meir, who once said: “If you’ve got to explain, you’ve lost already.’’



  • Note carefully how much effort is required to uncover it as a scam! An abomenation of clear thinking. EVEN IF THE QUOTE IS 100% CORRECT  - CARR PERVERTS IT BY IT'S VERY USE: SEE BELOW!!****
  • And note how contemptuously easy it was for Carr!
  • And who really understands or wants to understand this debunking? Who will bother reading it?
  • Indeed - who would have read and / or understood my original blog as above - and of course this interpolation*** herein?
  • Come to think of it - who understands the meaning of the word 'interpolation'?
  • Just for the record: Carr and that classical enemy of Israel The Austraslian's John Lyons have now used the outrageous DANIELLA WEISS QUOTE IN MULTIPLE CONTEXT AT LEAST 4 times. Sorry I do not have time to explain.
  • Sigh: who has the time....
  • And here is the classical chimera: Carr is indeed correct on what he quotes.  Inspite - and because of - it is one of the worst examples of deliberate perversion of context because the very quote he raises is indeed an argument for the contrary!


I have gone to a lot of trouble to 

uncover possibly the worst example of a

professional fraudster in mainstream

media. And his arguably most brazen fraud!

Does anyone recall Carr being held to account?


Geoff Seidner


***

Interpolate | Define Interpolate at Dictionary.com

dictionary.reference.com/browse/interpolate


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