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Hello Ross
Look how Steven Pinker obviously had you in mind in his article in
Saturday’s The Australian on page 18.
See below.
I also wish to advise you that my book club is running a chook raffle for
the person who PROVES the most pathetic junk – phrase in the gem of the killer –
tomato article of yours.
It is expected that you will join me in barracking for the phrases META –
MORALITY, OVERARCHING MORALITY, MORAL TRADE – OFFS you plundered from Joshua
Greene ex his puerile book Moral Tribes.
Kindly note all of the above should ensure these moribund, meaningless
meanderings of yours should get into the final.
All will be able to contemplate that the META word will surely win.
You see Ross, I have had such an affinity with the meta word.
Years ago I debunked meta – analysis as being the plaything of socialist
medical researchers. I won.
Meta – data is currently in the news – is rational in conception and of
course it is not the domain of socialist twirps. I guess that is why the left
generally tries to attack the collection of meta – data to he;p law enforcement
agencies.
Bur your use of a troika of meta words as above is a winner, surely from
the realm of phsycho – babble.
I congratulate you on your incipient victory.
Indeed you are the only contestant – just like the halcyon days of
communist elections.
If perchance you have a decko at my blogs – you will find lots of fans of
yours.
Please feel free to bowse.
Kindest regards
Up your socialist revolution.
Geoff Seidner
.The curse of knowledge contributes top a tide of
gobbledygook. Source:
Supplied
'ALL MANNER OF WRITERS MAKE THE MISTAKE OF ASSUMING THEY MAKE SENSE TO THEIR READERS'
'PSEUDO - INTELLECTUALS SPOUT OBSCURE VERBIAGE TO HIDE THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO SAY, HOPING TO BAMBOOZLE THEIR AUDIENCES WITH HIGH FALUTIN GOBBLEDYGOOK'
Page 18 The Australian INQUIRER’
'ALL MANNER OF WRITERS MAKE THE MISTAKE OF ASSUMING THEY MAKE SENSE TO THEIR READERS'
'PSEUDO - INTELLECTUALS SPOUT OBSCURE VERBIAGE TO HIDE THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO SAY, HOPING TO BAMBOOZLE THEIR AUDIENCES WITH HIGH FALUTIN GOBBLEDYGOOK'
Page 18 The Australian INQUIRER’
Hello again Ross
I feel we are getting to know each other: wonderful what a google search or
merely my recollection of the unkind things The Australian pasted about you on
their Cut And Paste column over the years.
Still, I had hoped you would respond to my email yesterday. As below.
Here is the deal, Ross.
I will paste your response on my blog – within minutes....giving you
unlimited space to explicate your views on tribes, happiness, moral trade –
offs, meta – morality and whatever is begatted from your article. This will be
on my blog soon.
It is understood that this may prove too difficult for you because your
work is an amalgam of the works of others.
I guess my blog could have been called SOCIALIST UTOPIA: IT WOULD
HAVE MEANT THE SAME
These dystopia / utopia words are special, non? They mean the same
essentially and aptly describe the left in all realms.
So – why do you not ask the entities whose efforts in
social twirpery may be more advanced than yours to explain the
inexplicable?
I will help your troika: here is a rough resume of the more ‘interesting’
things you have written – plundered from Joshua Greene. professor of
psycho babble at Harvard and Jonathan Haigh.
So – here we go Ross: pardon the cryptic approach – but my
scribbles will sadly make sense to anyone with a rational intelligent
mind.
- Moral psychology... ‘’hottest area’’ of psycho babble............... what pap!
- Oddly scientific .. this is merely an excuse to distort via religion bashing!
- Selfish individuals – hey Ross – we are all selfish .... this is asinine in any context... i could write 20 000 words!
- but we like groups – congrats Ross... but why the ‘but’ word? there is no room for such but codicils!
- unmatched ability to cooperate – huh? - are we not so clever? some are more stupid than others I guess that makes some clever by default to see an imbecilic tautologous idiocy, non?
- How is your tripe ‘’oddly scientific’’ ? Is this an example of science when you debauch every principle that resides there? It fails the common sense test.
- Now we come to the ultimate bar 20 or so others... specialization.... I will write an essay with the help of a competition for all children under 13 – to decimate this idea of yours. No room or time for now
- How about this tosh: morality, psychological adaptation, otherwise selfish , reap benefits... I will leave this to the children
- So why do we want to cooperate? – OH! THIS IS HEAVY – RESTRICTED TO PEOPLE IN THE TOP 99% of IQ! Another day, Ross
- US VS THEM: OH how pathetic – another day... all leftist codswallop
- ‘Empathy’ soon follows – I have no time to get back to my notes BUT I TELL YOU ROSS – YOU CAN FOLLOW ALL THESE – THEY ARE SEQUENTIAL
- I now look here : LEADS TO TRIBALISM: ......THIS IS AN ATTACK ON GOVERNMENT – YOU SUPPORT ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT BY ANY CHANCE?? I wish I had time to try to prove to you how stupid this is and so plainly antithetical of the barest elements of what even a left – wing economics journalist should encompass
- YOU DARE ATTACK INTELLIGENT ECONOMISTS VIA ‘’denying it / playing it down’’
- META MORALITY --- HUH HOW COULD YOU ROSS – THIS IS IMBECILIC
- WHAT REALLY MATTERS: UTILITARIAN ... MORAL TRADE OFFS.... MAKES SENSE TO ALL TRIBES – i can see ISIS BEING PART...
That is it for now_ you should read The Oz ex Saturday. You will learn what
leaden flummery you have writ
The
Australian - 2 days ago
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The Australian - 2 days agoThe kind of stupidity I have in mind has nothing to do withignorance or ... Call it the curse of knowledge: a difficulty in imagining what it is like for ...
Ross Gittins, Corrected | teaching Ross Gittins economics
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Hello Ross Gittins
Someone gave me a hard copy of your article of 8 October.
Kindly explain the nature of the moral trade – off
explicit in your title. I have no idea why you would think that there is any
moral trade – off via the majority having the solution that makes the majority
‘happy’. Seeing that elsewhere you proferred the correct meaning in your
screed.
You would not by any chance be suggesting an alternative system of
government?
I personally would vote for any system that would incorporate a majority
vote basis AND ensuring everyone’s happiness is protected as below. Maybe a
touch of utopianism ?
Do you think we could start with a SENATE candidate under the aegis of
UTOPIAN UTILITARIANIST PARTY [UUP]?
I tell you Ross – this META – MORALITY has me flummoxed: see the second –
last paragraph. If it could work, it is virtually amounts to a ONE WORLD
GOVERNMENT!
ISIS IS ELIMENATED FROM THE LADSCAPE>
No more wars!
I always thought that being ruled by 3 layers of politicians is two too
many: we should do well.
And kindly elucidate as to why you appear to have changed the meaning /
raison d’etre of utilitarianism from the understood dictionary meaning?
See below quotes from your article.
It seems to me you refer to utopianism AKA Socialism? Non?
AAh – the grandchildren have arrived....
Regards
Geoff Seidner
East St Kilda
03 9 525 9299
‘’...(This is of
relevance to economists because, though they've spent the past 80 years trying
to play it down, utilitarianism forms part of the bedrock on which the
conventional economic model is built.)
According to Greene,
utilitarianism answers two basic questions: what
really matters and who really
matters. What matters most is the quality of our experience. Economists call
this "utility" and the rest of us call it "happiness". Who matters most is all
of us, equally - otherwise known as the Golden Rule.
Thus Greene summarises utilitarianism as
"happiness is what matters and everyone's happiness counts the same. This
doesn't mean that everyone gets to be equally happy, but it does means than no
one's happiness is inherently more valuable than anyone
else's".
He claims
this meta-morality involves a moral system that can acknowledge moral trade-offs
and adjudicate among them, and can do so in a way that makes sense to members of
all tribes.
It's a nice thought.
Somehow I think it will be a while before we measure up to that ideal. But it's
always good to have a vision of what we should be aiming for and how we can move
towards it.
utilitarianism
jʊˌtɪlɪˈtɛːrɪənɪz(ə)m/
noun
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the doctrine that actions are right if they are useful or for the benefit of a majority.
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the doctrine that an action is right in so far as it promotes happiness, and that the greatest happiness of the greatest number should be the guiding principle of conduct.
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