Thursday, 13 September 2012

PATHETIC ABC DISTORTS OR MERE LIES RE LEUNIG!!!

PATHETIC ABC DISTORTS: or mere lies!!

I am not sure which entity deserves the greater opprobrium: Media Watch - the ABC's so - called [socialst] media watchdog or David Marr that organ's then  editor / appendage.

These are the facts:



  1. The original programme of 19/5/03 had David Marr feigning outrage that The Age's Jewish Editor Gawenda refused to publish Leunig's obscene cartoon.
  2. Proudly Marr announced that the cartoon could be viewed on his Media Watch website. Marr's comments were astonishing and sick.
  3. It seems the miserable cartoon has been taken down by the ABC. BELATEDLY!!
  4. A close look at the below link will show it: I find no other record of it....other than rubenstein  blog.  I cut and past it below from this blog.
  5. HOWEVER - THE ABC / MEDIA WATCH have made some odious comparisons with Bill Leak's harmless cartoon - see below Take a look »
  6. This cryptic analysis is surely inadequate - but it will do!
I list a few links for interest, herein,
Geoff Seidner
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Stories in 2003

 Another lost Leunig :: 19/05/2003
How interesting. George Bush has called the Prime Minister a man of steel and Mark Latham has called him a suckhole…

The truth is always somewhere in between…He’s a suckhole of steel.
- Leunig cartoon
Take a look »


Another Leunig that did not appear in the Age – after being pulled by editor in chief Michael Gawenda.

Welcome to Media Watch. I’m David Marr.

Leunig was not consulted before The Age put in its place this wistful 30 year old sketch from one of his books.

Leunig told Media Watch he and Gawenda have since had words.

I was quite annoyed and we had a fairly heated discussion but Michael saw my point and was apologetic. He offered to run it [the next day] but I said no, the world has changed.
- Leunig statement to Media Watch


Those who think joking about this sort of thing is ‘just not funny’, should remember that Bill Leak won a Walkley last year for his take on the same subject.

Help the war effort
National brown nose day.
- Leak cartoon, The Weekend Australian
Take a look »


So should the people of Melbourne have been protected from Leunig’s suckhole of steel cartoon? Have a look and judge for yourself at abc.net.au/mediawatch.
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http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s858018.htm


Those who think joking about this sort of thing is ‘just not funny’, should remember that Bill Leak won a Walkley last year for his take on the same subject. 

Help the war effort
National brown nose day.
- Leak cartoon, The Weekend Australian
Take a look »

David Marr on Arbeit Mach Frei




From: g87
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:38 AM
Subject: David Marr on Arbeit Mach FreiEssay on David Marr?
David Marr on Arbeit Mach Frei

Pam Swirski Last Post 13/9 waits for someone to write an essay on David Marr.
Perhaps the basis for same will be Marr’s lamentable support for the [sick??] 2003 Leunig cartoon Arbeit Mach Frei!
As editor of the ABC's Media Watch Marr lamented the censuring of this ultimate obscenity of a cartoon by the Age editor.
Marr vouchsafed an effective comparison of Israel with the Nazis at Auschwitz!
It will be indeed 'scabrous].
Geoff Seidner
13 Alston Gr East St Kida 3183
03 9525 9299

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Letters The Australian Sept 13, 2012
''Greg Sheridan used "scabrous propaganda" to describe David Marr's Quarterly Essay. What a beautifully succinct and apt description.
Neil Bradley, Auldana, SA''
I'm waiting for someone to write an essay on David Marr.
Pam Swirski, Berwick, Vic


www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s858018.htmShare
19 May 2003 – Another Leunig that did not appear in the Age – after being pulled by editor in chief Michael Gawenda. Welcome to Media Watch. I'm David ...


scab·rous/ˈskabrəs/

Adjective:
  1. Rough and covered with, or as if with, scabs.
  2. Indecent; salacious: "scabrous publications".
Synonyms:rough - coarse - rugged - harsh
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Wednesday, 12 September 2012


Once upon a time governments were proud of their efforts and would defend critiques in the media.
There have been 20 devastating indictments of this miserable government in the pages of The Australian over the past week - with ne'er an excuse in sight.
Henry Ergas' article on Monday is simply brilliantly incisive: plainly unanswerable as usual.
Ross Fitzgerald's item is of similar quality. [Saturday Inquirer 8 /9/12

We are living in interesting times: I am moved to make a tasteless comment. 
It is without foundation and in very poor taste.
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/julia-gillards-desperate-announcements-are-in-aid-of-her-own-survival-not-her-partys/story-e6frg7eo-1226466672851

Julia Gillard's desperate announcements are in aid of her own survival, not her party's



  • From:The Australian 
  • September 08, 2012 12:00AM

  • IN a desperate effort to hold off a leadership challenge from Kevin Rudd, Julia Gillard has combined her ruthless disregard for the long-term future of the Labor Party with her ferocious desire for self-preservation, the now familiar hallmarks of her leadership.
    The Prime Minister has demonstrated that she is prepared to break solemn promises, walk away from long-held principles and policies, do "whatever it takes" to cling to her job and thereby prevent a Rudd return.
    There have been rumours for months that Rudd and his supporters have been making the case for his return some time this month or next. That included floating the policy changes he would make to win the public approval denied Gillard since her now notorious broken promise not to introduce a carbon tax.
    Rudd is said to have promised changes to the carbon tax should he be returned to the leadership, including scrapping the floor price for the carbon tax that was to take effect in 2015.

    Significantly, the Prime Minister suddenly dispatched Climate Change Minister Greg Combet to make an embarrassing policy backflip and announce the scrapping of the carbon floor price of $15 a tonne.
    Combet's announcement came just weeks after the introduction of the carbon tax and after months of forceful arguments as to why a floor price was critical. As the floor price was not due to come into effect for another three years, the only logical explanation for the rushed announcement is that Gillard believed Rudd was gaining support for his policy idea and that she was increasingly vulnerable to a challenge.

    The government's "power sharing" partners, the Greens, showed their true colours when leader Christine Milne embraced this policy change even though it could lead to a collapse in the carbon price.
    Milne and her party have long argued for a carbon price exponentially higher than the present level to make renewable energy price competitive with coal, yet she raised no concerns about scrapping the floor price. Combet and Milne both argued that they expected the EU price to be much higher in 2015 than the floor price of $15 a tonne. That prompts the question of why scrap the floor price, if that is in fact their belief?
    The obvious truth is that the government and the Greens expect the EU price to remain low but do not want to be accused of imposing a carbon tax that is so obviously out of step with the small-scale carbon price schemes operating in Europe.
    The Australian business community has been quick to demand an immediate cut to the present tax of $23 a tonne to bring it closer to parity with Europe, where trading has been at less than $10 a tonne. As Europe is in the throes of a financial crisis, there are serious doubts about any significant recovery in the price of carbon.
    This scenario has serious implications for the federal budget, as modelling has been predicated on a price higher than $15 a tonne. If the cost of the compensation outstrips revenue from the carbon tax a yawning budget black hole will appear.
    While the Greens generally show scant regard for potential budget blowouts, there can be no policy justification for this decision as it is likely to lead to a lower price on carbon.
    Perhaps the solution to that minor piece of hypocrisy was revealed the next day when Health Minister Tanya Plibersek announced a $4 billion dental health program, with Greens senator Richard Di Natale standing at her shoulder for the announcement. It seems that to head Rudd off at the pass, the government needed the Greens on side. The Greens extracted their price in the form of the dental program.
    In their haste to make the announcement, the basic details were not worked out and confusion followed over whether any funding had been identified. Plibersek claimed "there is not billions of dollars in the budget for this" and "we need to find a new $4bn".
    Gillard claimed there would be "a large saving" to come from ending a current program that targeted chronic dental health problems. The Health Minister's office then confirmed no funding had been allocated in the budget forward estimates for the axed dental health program and it was therefore not possible to count its closure as savings.
    Given that this presently unfunded dental health program will not begin until 2014, well after the next federal election, the timing of the announcement adds to the air of desperation surrounding Labor. Surely it would have made more sense for the government to hold back until the election campaign.
    The rash of announcements has caused some Coalition strategists to speculate that Rudd's support is at a sufficiently high level for Gillard to be considering an early election.
    The government's response to the Gonski review into school funding has added to the speculation of an early election.
    Schools Minister Peter Garrett declared last weekend that "this is a once-in-a-generation opportunity for us to support the needs of every kid in every classroom in Australia" - words eerily reminiscent of Rudd, who, as prime minister, often overreached in policy pronouncements.
    Such grandiose claims came back to haunt Rudd, as they will Gillard.
    The response to the Gonski review will not be fully implemented until after another three elections and seven budgets, and Gillard knows there is little likelihood of these reforms surviving beyond the next election.
    It is clear Gillard's overriding priority is her short-term survival as Prime Minister, rather than the long-term survival of the government. While any modest rise in the opinion polls may give the Gillard camp renewed hope that she can cling to the leadership, they may need to reconsider their plan.
    Small improvements in the opinion polls could play into Rudd's hands. Rudd supporters argue his return to the leadership would give the party a boost of at least 5 per cent in the primary vote.
    When Labor's primary was hovering at 26 per cent, a Rudd boost to 31 per cent was a moot point. If Rudd as leader were able to provide a lift closer to 40 per cent, that would make Labor competitive. It would be hard for backbenchers to reject such an opportunity.
    Meanwhile, MPs are watching Gillard closely as these big-ticket announcements keep rolling out to shore up her leadership. Come the election, the policy cupboard may well be empty.
    Emeritus professor of history and politics at Griffith University, Ross Fitzgerald is the author of 35 books

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    The government subverts the cost benefit analysis of its legislation


    BAD government is no excuse for bad governance. Yet an interim report just released by the Productivity Commission highlights the damage this government has done to a key element in the integrity of public decision-making: the process of scrutinising proposed regulations.
    In fact, so dire is the situation that in what must be a first the government is on the record as refusing to answer questions put to it by the commission in the course of an inquiry. That inquiry examines how effectively the commonwealth, states and territories analyse the costs and benefits of proposed regulations.
    As part of its inquiry, the commission surveyed jurisdictions about the procedures by which those analyses (known as Regulation Impact Statements) are prepared and reviewed. Alone among the jurisdictions surveyed, the commonwealth refused to answer a host of questions related to the RIS process.
    That those questions would embarrass the government is hardly puzzling. For, since coming to office, Labor has done whatever it can to undermine regulation review. This is not to suggest the system Labor inherited was perfect - far from it. Yes, an appraisal of that system undertaken by the OECD on the basis of the Howard government's RIS guidelines gave it high marks. In reality, however, there was plenty of room for improvement, as the Banks review of regulation in 2006 showed.

    But, rather than improvements, Labor changed the system for the worse. The Office of Best Practice Regulation, responsible for designing and enforcing the regulation review guidelines, was transferred from the Productivity Commission to the Department of Finance. That done, Labor took the guidelines the OECD had endorsed and trashed them.
    In a move the PC describes as "at odds with the Regulatory Impact Assessment framework", ministers were allowed to select the alternative options considered in a RIS and to retrospectively modify a RIS after a decision had been taken. Nor was there any obligation to disclose that had been done. And, to make matters worse, the 

    government dropped the requirement that of the options considered in a RIS the option with the highest net benefits to the community be the one recommended.
    But it did not end there. Rather, an unprecedented number of important new regulations were exempted from the requirement for a RIS. And, though more than 70 exempted regulations should have been subjected to post-implementation reviews, only nine such reviews have been completed.
    The unsurprising result is that the quality of Regulation Impact Statements has reached an all-time low. Exemplary of the problems is the Illegal Logging Prohibition Bill, which has just cleared the House of Representatives.
    The legislation itself is nothing to be proud of. It imposes on businesses that import timber or timber products an obligation to verify that the timber has been legally logged, with up to five years' imprisonment for failing to do so. Although no more than 10 per cent of Australia's timber imports are at risk of being illegally logged, the legislation will increase prices for all timber products by 3 per cent or more. That slug on consumers is championed by the Greens, who having done their best to destroy the Australian timber industry are now determined to cripple imports. And the promise of import restrictions has won the Greens the support of beleaguered domestic producers and of the unions, resulting in an unholy coalition of victims and tormentors.
    So as to help prepare the RIS for this depressing venture, the department responsible for the legislation commissioned modelling from the Centre for International Economics.
    To its credit, the CIE concluded the costs of the government's policy were up to 10 times greater than the benefits. Far from preventing illegal logging, the legislation would simply divert illegal timber to other markets while harming Australian consumers. Domestic producers would be better off, but few environmental gains, if any, would be achieved.
    The department, however, was not so easily discouraged. Instead, it commissioned a new round of modelling from within government, and in its modelling instructions slashed the CIE's estimates of compliance costs. Indeed, doubtless by coincidence, its adjustments to the CIE's methodology proved exactly sufficient to bring the estimated benefits of the government's preferred option into line with the costs. To get the proposal over the line, the department pointed to additional "intangible" benefits that it had never clearly specified, much less quantified - ignoring the CIE's finding that there was "no reason to believe" inclusion of intangibles "will change the conclusion that the benefit to cost ratio is very low".
    The outcome is a RIS that heartily endorses the government's position. Even the most superficial reading of that RIS suggests it is half-baked; it takes only a moment's closer examination to reveal it has never been put in the oven. But the mere fact that the ratio of benefits to costs had been increased tenfold plainly did not arouse suspicion in the Department of Finance. Rather, the RIS received the good housekeeping seal as fully compliant with RIS quality requirements.
    Unfortunately, the Climate Change Department's RIS supporting the recent backflip on the floor price for the emissions trading scheme shows that is no isolated incident. This RIS must have involved considerable difficulty, as only months earlier the same department concluded that, on balance, a floor price was desirable. But displaying the agility usually reserved for eels slithering into the mud, the new RIS asserts both that future carbon prices would be "significantly higher" without the legislative amendments than with them, and that future carbon prices (and notably those in the budget) would not be changed by the legislative amendments.
    One might have expected seeing assertions thus locked in mortal combat to trouble the Department of Finance; instead, yet another questionable RIS obtained its tick of approval.
    Little wonder the Commission concludes that "a degree of cynicism is pervading the regulatory landscape in response to the perceived lack of integrity in regulation decision-making". And little wonder we are drowning in ill-conceived regulation, with all the harm it does to productivity.
    That is not to claim the RIS process could ever suffice to prevent regulatory creep. The reality is that from time to time governments will take poor decisions.
    But while poor decisions are inevitable, poor processes are not. And by undermining transparency and accountability, poor processes make poor decisions more likely and more durable.
    Labor therefore knew what it was doing when it neutered the regulation review process: it was allowing truly shocking measures, such as the illegal logging bill, to get a free kick. It is now up to the Coalition to show it is serious about doing better.
    Additional material at http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/henryergas/

    Monday, 10 September 2012

    The Female of the Species / a superior ode to affirmative inanity!

    An ode to the Sufreggettes

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                          Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936)                           The Female of the Species
        WHEN the Himalayan peasant meets the he-bear in his pride,
        He shouts to scare the monster, who will often turn aside.
        But the she-bear thus accosted rends the peasant tooth and nail.
        For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.
        When Nag the basking cobra hears the careless foot of man,
        He will sometimes wriggle sideways and avoid it if he can.
        But his mate makes no such motion where she camps beside the trail.
        For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.
        When the early Jesuit fathers preached to Hurons and Choctaws,
        They prayed to be delivered from the vengeance of the squaws.
        'Twas the women, not the warriors, turned those stark enthusiasts pale.
        For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.
        Man's timid heart is bursting with the things he must not say,
        For the Woman that God gave him isn't his to give away;
        But when hunter meets with husbands, each confirms the other's tale—
        The female of the species is more deadly than the male.
        Man, a bear in most relations—worm and savage otherwise,—
        Man propounds negotiations, Man accepts the compromise.
        Very rarely will he squarely push the logic of a fact
        To its ultimate conclusion in unmitigated act.
        Fear, or foolishness, impels him, ere he lay the wicked low,
        To concede some form of trial even to his fiercest foe.
        Mirth obscene diverts his anger—Doubt and Pity oft perplex
        Him in dealing with an issue—to the scandal of The Sex!
        But the Woman that God gave him, every fibre of her frame
        Proves her launched for one sole issue, armed and engined for the same;
        And to serve that single issue, lest the generations fail,
        The female of the species must be deadlier than the male.
        She who faces Death by torture for each life beneath her breast
        May not deal in doubt or pity—must not swerve for fact or jest.
        These be purely male diversions—not in these her honour dwells—
        She the Other Law we live by, is that Law and nothing else.
        She can bring no more to living than the powers that make her great
        As the Mother of the Infant and the Mistress of the Mate.
        And when Babe and Man are lacking and she strides unclaimed to claim
        Her right as femme (and baron), her equipment is the same.
        She is wedded to convictions—in default of grosser ties;
        Her contentions are her children, Heaven help him who denies!—
        He will meet no suave discussion, but the instant, white-hot, wild,
        Wakened female of the species warring as for spouse and child.
        Unprovoked and awful charges—even so the she-bear fights,
        Speech that drips, corrodes, and poisons—even so the cobra bites,
        Scientific vivisection of one nerve till it is raw
        And the victim writhes in anguish—like the Jesuit with the squaw!
        So it comes that Man, the coward, when he gathers to confer
        With his fellow-braves in council, dare not leave a place for her
        Where, at war with Life and Conscience, he uplifts his erring hands
        To some God of Abstract Justice—which no woman understands.
        And Man knows it! Knows, moreover, that the Woman that God gave him
        Must command but may not govern—shall enthral but not enslave him.
        And She knows, because She warns him, and Her instincts never fail,
        That the Female of Her Species is more deadly than the Male.


    This poem can be found, for example, in:



  • Kipling, Rudyard. Rudyard Kipling's Verse: Inclusive Edition, 1885-1918. London: Hodder & Stoughton, 1919.
  • Felleman, Hazel, ed. The Best Loved Poems of the American People. Garden City, NY: Garden City Books, 1936.     
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  • Watch the wall my green darlings as the gentlemen go by



    From: g87
    Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 1:30 PM
    Subject: Watch the wall my green darlings as the gentlemen go by
    Watch the wall my green darlings as the gentlemen go by!

    With apologies to R Kippling – see links!!!
    http://www.kipling.org.uk/rg_haldraft1.htm#smuggler
    http://www.kipling.org.uk/poems_smuggler.htm
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8LtOIN1G4I

    Let it be understood that Rudd, Gillard, the Cabinet, all ministries and the backward backbenchers all agreed with the bewildering idiocy that has become the so - called 'Labor brand.'

    None had the courage to vote or speak against extreme left policies: the alleged need for the Greens vote was an excuse - for policies they plainly all supported at all times.
    Ask the brainless clots: who would Senator Brown have voted for if the luvvies stood up to him?
    Labor can never avoid the analogy with Rudyard’s The Smugglers Song: Watch the wall my darling while the gentlemen go by....them that asks no question isn’t told a lie....
    The current convenient attack by the left on the left are a pathetic indication that this mob are on a hidding - to- nothing from the electorate looking for substantial baseball bats.
    It is understood that Gillard's multiple humiliations, lies and mere backflips; mega - wastes and scores more - were policies they hugged and kissed each other over.
    They were willing participants in so – called moral issues.

    Geoff Seidner
    13 Alston Gr
    East St Kilda 3183
    03 9525 9299

    Momentum shifts to the Right as Labor steps up Greens attack




    Lee Rhiannon
    Green senator Lee Rhiannon has defended poor results returned by the party at weekend council elections. Source: The Daily Telegraph
    FEDERAL Labor will sharpen its attack on the Greens over core policy disputes after weekend elections that heartened ALP supporters angry at the concessions made to their allies in the minority government.
    Voters turned on the Greens in some of the party's local government strongholds as part of a shift to the Right blamed in part on federal policy rows over asylum-seekers and climate change.
    As parliament resumes today without Julia Gillard, who is in Adelaide with her family following the death of her father on Saturday, Labor supporters were heartened by the party's gains against the Greens in council elections in NSW at the weekend.
    Infrastructure Minister Anthony Albanese, whose federal seat of Grayndler in Sydney's inner west is viewed as vulnerable to the Greens, declared that the minor party's momentum had stalled and the Gillard government could "magnify" the shift at the next federal election by sharpening the focus on Greens policies

    Labor strategists said the swing against the Greens in some areas was the party's first real fall in support after 15 years years of steady growth, but NSW Greens senator Lee Rhiannon disputed that by pointing to areas where her colleagues had held their ground against Labor opponents. Gillard government supporters attributed the result to the Greens' obstruction of the government's asylum-seeker changes and contentious local government policies, such as a trade boycott of Israel.
    Labor suffered big blows in parts of NSW, its vote down as much as 25 per cent in one ward in the Parramatta council area in western Sydney. There were double-digit falls in other outer suburbs.
    NSW Liberal Premier Barry O'Farrell cited an unexpected win for his party in Newtown, in Sydney's inner west, to emphasise the blow to Labor. Mr O'Farrell said the results "bode well" for Tony Abbott at the federal election due next year.
    ABC election analyst Antony Green said the fate of the Greens was less important than the defeat of Labor in key areas, saying the outcomes generally matched the drubbing Labor had received at last year's state election.
    But Labor's wins against the Greens heartened Gillard government strategists, who drew parallels with a Victorian state by-election in July when Labor candidate Jennifer Kanis defeated the Greens' Cathy Oke.
    As in Victoria, the NSW result showed Labor gaining ground in inner-city areas once seen as inevitable conquests for the Greens.
    The local government elections revealed big swings against the Greens in areas where their support had been strongest, such as a 13.6 per cent swing against them in a Lilyfield ward in Sydney's inner west; 12 per cent in parts of nearby Balmain; and 12 per cent in parts of Randwick, in the city's east.
    In Byron Bay, the first council area in Australia to elect a Greens mayor, the party suffered an 11 per cent swing against it and preferences will determine if pro-business candidates win control of the council.
    Adam Bandt, who holds the federal seat of Melbourne and is the Greens' sole lower house MP, denied voters were deserting his party and said leader Christine Milne, who replaced Bob Brown in June, was 

    doing a good job.
    But NSW Greens local government spokesman David Shoebridge said the support for the party had softened because the electorate was "moving to the right" and one of the factors was the state of federal politics.
    Gillard government backbenchers have grown increasingly frustrated with the Greens over the past two years amid fears that the hung parliament had given Labor's short-term allies too much power. "The reality is that many of Labor's political problems are a function of our accommodation of the Greens," said Labor whip Joel Fitzgibbon. "Highlighting their shortcomings has helped to drive their vote down and our vote up."
    Several MPs said the NSW result showed the gains to be made from challenging the Greens rather than acquiescing with their policy demands on climate change, industry, healthcare or education.
    Labor frontbencher Mark Butler told the Sky News Australian Agenda program yesterday he believed support for the Greens would "taper off as people become more accustomed or get a better appreciation of the Greens party policies about things that matter to Australian families".
    The latest Newspoll, published in The Australian last week, revealed the Greens' primary vote dropped to a 3 1/2-year low of 8 per cent, down from 11.8 per cent at the 2010 election. Senator Milne called that result "disappointing" but also cited a Morgan poll showing a rise in support to 11.5 per cent.
    Australian Workers Union national secretary Paul Howes, who has led calls for Labor to consider putting the Greens last on preferences, said it was "dangerous to read too much into one Newspoll" but noted swings of up to 11 per cent in traditional Greens' "bastions" in the weekend elections.
    "Their failure to win the state seat of Melbourne a couple of weeks ago also shows, I think, there is a tapering off of groundswell support for the Greens and I think a lot of that is due to the fact, finally, we have the community actually calling the Greens to account," he told Australian Agenda. "We have proper examinations of Greens policies."
    Mr Albanese said the momentum often attributed to the Greens had stalled in general and gone backwards in some areas.
    "Every time the Greens party has been in a position of running something, of actually being able to exercise political power, they've been found wanting and disappointed their supporters," he said. "This weekend's result is an example of that and it can be magnified federally."
    Mr Albanese, whose inner-western electorate of Grayndler has shown strong support for the Greens in recent years, said Labor had increased its vote by running a "local affairs not foreign affairs" campaign. The campaign sought to highlight the Greens' interest in issues such as a boycott of Israel rather than policies that mattered more to local residents.
    "Now that Bob Brown isn't the leader, that undermines them federally as well," Mr Albanese said. "At whatever level people were voting Green, they were voting for Bob Brown, who had a strong values proposition."
    The Labor leader in the NSW upper house, Luke Foley, said the results demonstrated the gains the federal government could make if it stepped up its challenge to the Greens. "I think there's now a body of evidence that the Greens party vote is falling at a rate of knots since Bob Brown's retirement," Mr Foley said. "The retirement of Brown has hurt the Greens. Every electoral test they've faced under Christine Milne has been a disappointment for them."
    Mr Foley said the results illustrated the boost to Labor's fortunes when the party fought the Greens on policies - such as border protection - rather than focusing on tactical issues such as the allocation of preferences.
    "Labor's got to continue to campaign on Labor fundamentals - we can't ignore the Greens threat," he said. "The conservatives remain our principal opponents, but those who suggest we only invest in battle with the conservatives and leave the inner cities to the Greens are mistaken."
    Mr Foley said the lesson was to confront the Greens on policy not on political rhetoric, sharpening the differences by noting the details of the Greens' position.
    Senator Rhiannon disputed the Labor interpretation of the weekend's events, saying the figures compared to an unusually strong result in 2008 elections when the Labor state government was in power. She said the local councils in the area covered by Mr Albanese's seat of Grayndler had shown strong support for the Greens. "We're running in more and more seats - for instance, in western Sydney - and that pulls our vote down," she said. "Nobody ever wants to lose seats. We've lost some good councillors."
    She said Labor should focus its attack on the Coalition and not the Greens. "They're making a huge mistake if they think we're the enemy and not paying more attention to the Liberals," she said. "That is just cruelling their chances at the next election."
    ADDITIONAL REPORTING: ROSANNE BARRETT




    A Smuggler's Song




    IF you wake at midnight, and hear a horse's feet,
    Don't go drawing back the blind, or looking in the street,
    Them that ask no questions isn't told a lie.
    Watch the wall my darling while the Gentlemen go by.

    Five and twenty ponies,
    Trotting through the dark -
    Brandy for the Parson, 'Baccy for the Clerk.
    Laces for a lady; letters for a spy,
    Watch the wall my darling while the Gentlemen go by!

    Running round the woodlump if you chance to find
    Little barrels, roped and tarred, all full of brandy-wine,
    Don't you shout to come and look, nor use 'em for your play.
    Put the brishwood back again - and they'll be gone next day !

    If you see the stable-door setting open wide;
    If you see a tired horse lying down inside;
    If your mother mends a coat cut about and tore;
    If the lining's wet and warm - don't you ask no more !

    If you meet King George's men, dressed in blue and red,
    You be careful what you say, and mindful what is said.
    If they call you " pretty maid," and chuck you 'neath the chin,
    Don't you tell where no one is, nor yet where no one's been !

    Knocks and footsteps round the house - whistles after dark -
    You've no call for running out till the house-dogs bark.
    Trusty's here, and Pincher's here, and see how dumb they lie
    They don't fret to follow when the Gentlemen go by !

    'If You do as you've been told, 'likely there's a chance,
    You'll be give a dainty doll, all the way from France,
    With a cap of Valenciennes, and a velvet hood -
    A present from the Gentlemen, along 'o being good !

    Five and twenty ponies,
    Trotting through the dark -
    Brandy for the Parson, 'Baccy for the Clerk.
    Them that asks no questions isn't told a lie -
    Watch the wall my darling while the Gentlemen go by !


    http://www.kipling.org.uk/rg_haldraft1.htm#smuggler 
    "A Smuggler's Song" 


    (notes by Philip Holberton and Donald Mackenzie)



    [Verse 1 Line 3] Them that asks no questions isn’t told a lie Oliver Goldsmith: "She Stoops to Conquer" (1773): 'Ask me no questions and I'll tell you no fibs.'

    [Verse 2 Line 4] brishwood Sussex dialect for brushwood

    [Verse Line 1] King George’s men Soldiers hunting the smugglers

    [Verse 7 Line 3] Valenciennes lace, originally produced (c. 1705-80) in the town of that name in Northern France. 


    Thursday, 6 September 2012

    Vested pipelines: Swan's cliched world!


    From: g87
    Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 8:46 AM
    Subject: Vested pipelines: Swan's cliched world!
    Vested pipelines: Swan's cliched world!

    This morning Wayne Swan used the 'pipeline' word 4 times in mere seconds. [ABC Radio AM 8. 10 am.]

    And worse: his political life is ruled by the apparent self - made cliche of ''vested interests.''
    Plainly he fails to understand that the economies of the world are based on self interest. Essentially the 'vested' variety! Beats Marxism any day.

    Indeed it could be suggested that the term should never have come into use in any context as it is tautological socialism by an errant name. A massive indictment of Swanee who like Rudd has penned many socialist essays without understanding that Lenin's policies are long discredited.

    Someone should tell Labor that their yearning for policies of the proletariat has long ago been eschewed by the electorate as well.

    Geoff Seidner

    Geoff Seidner
    13 Alston Gr
    East St Kilda 3183
    03 9525 9299

    Tuesday, 4 September 2012

    The analogous drunken sailor eventually sobers up!


    The above cartoon is by the esteemed Bill Leak ex The Australian dated early Sept 2012
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    The analogous drunken sailor eventually sobers up!


    Appreciate the moderation of Tony Abbott in applying the 'spending like a drunken sailor' analogy to Gillard - without the suggestion that even the analogous drunken sailor eventually sobers up!

    It is not the first time the PM was tired and certainly emotional: how about her illogical tears over the US man on the moon. And as dozens of Australian's are murdered by our so - called allies in Afghanistan, never mind the asinine war of coloured cliches like green on blue. Just remember her foreign policy crie de cueour - her international stage comment that ''...she would rather be in the classroom.'' As Aussies die for naught!

    Julia proudly announces astonishing, irresponsible, massive new multi - billion Dollar expenses; simultaneously claiming the budget will still be balanced!
    And that in spite of the obvious incipient demise of the resources boom and her faithful girlie Minister Plibersek admitted that the dental scheme is '' ...new money we will have to  find.''

    Perhaps this will finally destroy her credibility in the eyes of voters: her unique brand of economic irrationalism writ large in everything she says, fails to do or finds Gillardian ways to mess - up.

    Is there anything she has not messed up?

    Geoff Seidner


    1. News for plibersek new moneys we will have to find

      1. Government heralds dental scheme
        Dentistry IQ‎ - 20 hours ago
        TANYA PLIBERSEK (at press conference): This is new money that we will have to find. LEIGH SALES, PRESENTER, 7.30: The dental pledge ...
      1. Insiders - 02/09/2012: Government heralds dental scheme - Insiders ...

        www.abc.net.au/insiders/content/2012/s3581082.htm
        2 days ago – TANYA PLIBERSEK (at press conference): This is new money that we will have to find. LEIGH SALES, PRESENTER, 7.30: The dental pledge ...
      2. The World Today - Govt reveals $4 billion dental care plan 29/08/2012

        www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2012/s3578281.htm
        5 days ago – TANYA PLIBERSEK: Indeed. This is new money that we will have to find because the Chronic Disease Dental Scheme has been slated for ...

      http://catallaxyfiles.com/2010/02/13/misguided/