Friday, 21 February 2014

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Socialist Dystopia: MERCIFULLY, HISTORY CAN NEVER REPEAT ...


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    Mar 15, 2013 - My other main blog: mediaspinners.blogspot.com.au Geoff Seidner ...opinion pieces from Labor parliamentarians - Emerson and Albanese. ... refused to respond to being designated Labor's worst minister by Judith Sloan.

OH Anthony Albanese: do you really think I must reconcile your claims in the article / link below with my  'google' items? You have the chutzpah to disseminate a claim against Joe Hockey? I do not have to read your article to know that this act of yours is simply silly. Courageous / AKA YES MINISTER

GS


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Once again I ask Rupert to look at the LATEST humbug in the Australian!

 
From: g87
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 10:25 AM
Subject: Once again I ask Rupert to look at the LATEST humbug in the Australian!
 

Palestinians [are indeed] guilty of turning kids into killers

 

 
From: g87
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 10:17 AM
Subject: Palestinians [are indeed] guilty of turning kids into killers
 

Palestinians [are indeed] guilty of turning kids into killers
 
A mealy – mouthed congratulation on publishing the brilliant article 21/2 by Shmuel Ben – Shmuel Palestinians guilty of turning kids into killers.
 
Plainly your outrageous editorial 21/2 Israel trials a new approach is thus reduced to yet another pathetic attempt at defending Israel’s number one antagonist, your John Lyons.
 
Geoff Seidner
13 Alston Gr
East St Kilda 3183
03 9525 9299
 
IN SPITE OF THE AMBASSADOR’S WORDS...  BELOW!!!.....
We, like the overwhelming majority of Israelis and fair-minded people everywhere, feel great pain and a sense of sorrow when we see children tragically involved in acts of politically motivated violence. While the issue of incarceration and treatment of minors is being dealt with, we are not seeing a similar level of thought or effort put into investigations concerning the origin of such behaviours. Children are not inherently violent or hateful. This is a learned behaviour.
To comprehensively investigate the health and wellbeing of the children involved in such violent acts, we must acknowledge that these children were, at some point, indoctrinated into this vicious mentality by terrorists and their affiliates.
We must recognise the role of adults in teaching their children to throw rocks as the core reason for these acts. Including, of course, strategic targets and timing in training. Misused by adults and terror organisations in a way contravening international law, utilising children for incitement purposes is criminal. This is the reality and it must stop.
When a minor is coerced into participating in deadly violence, it primarily indicates a lack of discipline, education and a breakdown of the primary support system, his or her family. Unfortunately, the Palestinian society and Authority have embraced and institutionalised a system of hate and violence directed at Israelis.
This system encourages individual acts of violence, whether rock throwing, fire-bomb hurling, drive-by shooting or, in extreme cases, the utilisation of explosives and suicide attacks. This environment is met by, and insulated by, an educational system that does its utmost to erase Israel from the history books.


......LOOK AT THE GENEROSITY OF SPIRIT  BELOW: SEE IN SPITE OF ABOVE!!!
WHY HE IS SO – OVER – GENEROUS TO UNICEF TOO!!!
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As stated in the UNICEF paper: “These efforts will build on the work of Palestinian, Israeli and International civil society groups who have been working with the Palestinian population for a number of years to raise awareness with children, families and communities to ensure they are informed of their specific rights when they are detained by the Israeli military.”
Israel stands at a crossroads, a place where no other country has stood before. We represent a patch in the complex tapestry of Middle-Eastern geography.
To simplify and sensationalise our situation, and that of the Middle East, is unhelpful and undermines peace efforts in both a regional and global context.
It is such a shame that we cannot see a more three-dimensional view of the Middle East, instead of the same story regurgitated over many days. Shmuel Ben-Shmuel is Israel’s ambassador to Australia.

Thursday, 20 February 2014

Sue Kinzie Executive Assistant Newscorp

  

Subject: random things re israel
 
 
 
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6. UN's Falk Accuses Israel of 'Inhuman Acts'
 
 
 

Israel to end night arrest of kids

 Islam Dar Ayyoub and his brother Karim, both were arrested, Islam at 14 and Karim 9. in their village of Nabi Saleh
THE Israeli army has announced a comprehensive review of its policy of dealing with Palestinian children.
 
From: g87
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 10:05 AM
Subject: Fw: The Australian should have apologized by now
 
Sue Kinzie
Executive Assistant
Newscorp
 
Dear Sue
I have been sending you material re John Lyons for years now.
Please assure me that Rupert Murdoch knows about my efforts.
And more important – that he intends to do something.
Surely it is about time!
 
Regards
Geofff Seidner
 
From: g87
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:37 AM
Subject: The Australian should have apologized by now
 
The Australian should have apologized by now for it's outrageous now much discredited, biased attack on Israel.
Instead they try to vindicate the untenable via trying to defend the indefensible: NOTE THIS [VERY TOP] FRONT PAGE BANNER BY THE AUSTRALIAN TODAY - 20/2/14, AS MAJOR HEADLINE OF NEWS DE JOUR:

ISRAEL ENDS NIGHT ARREST OF KIDS AFTER JOHN LYONS INVESTIGATION
[WORLD 7]

Shame upon shame - The Oz is a disgrace! How is a deliberate shibboleth worthy of this treatment?
Are they serious in implying ''crimes against humanity'' and ‘’International Criminal Court’’ action? I will be able to mount a defence without trying! It will never get to court simply because the multiple lies would not stand up to even elemental scrutiny.

Just how many times does the IDF have to debunk and eviscerate this ABC / The Australian scam?

Critical analysis seems not to matter anymore: all you have to do is repeat lies and deliberate distortions often enough, ignore the truth - voila! You get away with it because people tend to believe what appear to be genuine quotes.
It is the classical media fraud – the chimera of today's professional spinners.

And this you do not have the courage to publish.

And the ultimate obscenity?
The Oz has been correctly attacking the BDS: here you plainly imply that the boycotts have merit – simply by mentioning it.
Your lionised Lyons uses the oldest modus for getting away with it: the distorting quote syndrome. Plainly successful in an attention – diminished post – modernist world.

Geoff Seidner
13 Alston Gr
East St Kilda 3183
03 9525 9299

The Australian should have apologized by now

 
 
From: g87
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:37 AM
Subject: The Australian should have apologized by now
 

The Australian should have apologized by now for it's outrageous now much discredited, biased attack on Israel.
Instead they try to vindicate the untenable via trying to defend the indefensible: NOTE THIS [VERY TOP] FRONT PAGE BANNER BY THE AUSTRALIAN TODAY - 20/2/14, AS MAJOR HEADLINE OF NEWS DE JOUR:

ISRAEL ENDS NIGHT ARREST OF KIDS AFTER JOHN LYONS INVESTIGATION
[WORLD 7]

Shame upon shame - The Oz is a disgrace! How is a deliberate shibboleth worthy of this treatment?
Are they serious in implying ''crimes against humanity'' and ‘’International Criminal Court’’ action? I will be able to mount a defence without trying! It will never get to court simply because the multiple lies would not stand up to even elemental scrutiny.

Just how many times does the IDF have to debunk and eviscerate this ABC / The Australian scam?

Critical analysis seems not to matter anymore: all you have to do is repeat lies and deliberate distortions often enough, ignore the truth - voila! You get away with it because people tend to believe what appear to be genuine quotes.
It is the classical media fraud – the chimera of today's professional spinners.

And this you do not have the courage to publish.

And the ultimate obscenity?
The Oz has been correctly attacking the BDS: here you plainly imply that the boycotts have merit – simply by mentioning it.
Your lionised Lyons uses the oldest modus for getting away with it: the distorting quote syndrome. Plainly successful in an attention – diminished post – modernist world.

Geoff Seidner
13 Alston Gr
East St Kilda 3183
03 9525 9299

Thursday, 13 February 2014

REMINDER TO ABC - re medical imbeciles

 

REMINDER TO ABC
You cannot take a clue – can you? Even last night you were promoting irresponsibility!
THERE HAVE BEEN 3 major areas of fraud medical you have been promoting!
 
Please ensure all my emails are responded to – you have the gall to ignore me!
You do so at your peril.
 
I recall the idiotic cancer clusters last year- this was cruel to women!
 
The left are plainly imbeciles
Geoff Seidner
 

13/2/14 - ANSWER DEMANDED RE ABC ETC FRAUD


ABC HEADQUARTERS
CC to Julie Bishop
I direspectfully demand an answer from BOOB CARR / ABC and C Mitchell / The Oz/ Lyons/  to this.
It is a shameful chapter in Australia’s history

ANSWER DEMANDED RE FRAUD
It is about time the greatest political spin of recent times was disabused: I put it to the reader; do not believe the left who try to prove the veracity of their articles / verbiage

There are  two possibilities:**** they are merely lying or plainly lying! Here is Carr's nefarious article.


Bob Carr is good at both forms of lies. By the way - I hope he sues me. Sadly he no longer has a public email address in my ken. Such a fall.

His miserable article rests on both forms of lies.

Let me take you to the latter.
Carr spends his life crawling, trawling through whatever may help his anti - semitic cause.
His modus vivendi of course demonstrates what sort of person he is.. Because proper research is not his game.

Indeed - he takes words / whatever may be helpful - preferably from friends of Israel and inverts context, no matter how shallow or absurd or plain the distortion.
It never seems absurd the way Carr does it.

It is plain how he gets away with it.

  1. He relies on the ignorance of most reasonable people: who plainly accept that  'it must be correct.'
  2. One has to understand there are few people in the public domain whose comments cannot be abused by the likes of Carr. So paradoxically the quotes are seemingly correct. Even entirely correct. But the man destroys meaningful context - and glibly cares not.
  3. Worse - much worse is this tangent which Carr purports to not understand. People can throughout their life can make disparate comments that may not be correct for our times. That is context, Bobbness Carr!
  4. Or may be incorrect - and may be a harmless, erroneous rubbish for which the person should never be held responsible. Eg the Moshe Dayan quote. Not for Carr, of course. His game is professional media spin!
  5. Take Carr's Levy Eshkol quote.It is embelished with The holocaust via a dubious entity: you cannot get much worse!
  6. But wait - there is more! Carr attacks Israel re the idiotic socialist idea that [socialist!] kibbutz life - good - settling in Israel bad. Apologies to the Orwell.
  7. Abusing Golda Meir via her harmless quote is plain stupid. [See below enlarged link.]
  8. But by now Carr no longer cares: he thinks he has transported the reader into his world where like the left - we cannot think for ourselves. Well - I CAN, you fool Carr! Why not use a real quote Carr? SEE BELOW
  9. He attacks AIJAC and misquotes his successor the esteemed Julie Bishop! Shame on Carr.
  10. Never mind his his on his favourite toy - the Geneva Convention and International Law: simply dishonest.
  11. I guess I have no time to teach him about how many Jews were murdered beause of 1944 perceptions of so - called International Law. Remember The Exodus? Of course. Carr was rejoicing in his mother's womb!
  12. And the quotes re anti - semitic  Thoreux? And Kerry and Obama more! Shame: see my earlier assay on what low - lifes they are.
  13. Especially Obama.Kerry!! ''...warned Israel last month of the danger of delegitimisation, especially after the EU announced any economic treaties with Israel would carefully exclude - one may say boycott - business activity in Israeli settlements.''
  14. THE ABOVE IS SICK! KERRY HAS ELSEWHERE PLAINLY EXCUSED ANY TERRORIST ACTION BY THE PLO.And the above re BDS IS NO BETTER!!
  15. But as a finale - contemplate how sick is Carr's quote re Kerry! In and of itself above - and his complete disregard for morality!
Now - to end this - LOOK: THE ABC AND LYONS AND CARR WERE LYING!!
SEE THIS!! Just like Jenin - all lies!!
http://cognatesocialistdystopia.blogspot.com.au/2014/02/13214-lyons-and-abc-lies-re-idf-detains.html

Geoff Seidner
Too bad I have no time to edit this!

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http://cognatesocialistdystopia.blogspot.com.au/2014/02/my-email-9214-i-denounce-john-lyons-and.html

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EX # 7 above:
http://cognatesocialistdystopia.blogspot.com.au/2014/02/my-email-9214-i-denounce-john-lyons-and.html
I quote Golda Meir in 1957: there were no Palestinians then, by the way! This phrase has too been distorted on the web, by the way.
“Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.” (Statement to the National Press Club in Washington, D.C., 1957)

Oh, Golda, Golda – so much has happened since your days.
Geoff Seidner

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    It was directed by Peter Glenville and stars Danny Kaye, Curt Jürgens and Nicole Maurey. ... quoting his mother, that "In life, there are always two possibilities." ...

West Bank settlements always illegal

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ANY confusion about Israel’s settlements in the West Bank can be easily resolved. There is a file in the office of the Israeli Prime Minister that will do it.
The file would be handy for John Kerry as he attempts to broker a peace. It would help Julie Bishop, who told The Times of Israel on January 15 she’d like to see advice that says settlements are illegal.
It was this advice that an Israeli prime minister asked for in 1967. Israel had just conquered what is now the West Bank. Prime minister Levi Eshkol asked Israel’s top authority on international law, Theodor Meron, whether Israel could settle civilians there.
Meron was a child survivor of the Holocaust and has since become one of the world’s leading authorities on the laws of war and a judge on the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia.
His advice was unequivocal, and today he sticks to it. He said: “Civilian settlement in the administered territories contravenes explicit provisions of the Fourth Geneva Convention.”
When General Moshe Dayan in 1968 proposed building Israeli towns on the West Bank he blithely conceded: “Settling Israelis in administered territories, as is known, contravenes international conventions ... “
Indeed, the Fourth Geneva Convention would appear to leave no room for argument. It states: “The occupying power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.”
Apologists for settlements try to argue that Article 49 bars the occupier only from “forced transfer” (my emphasis) of its civilians. This is not the interpretation accepted by the International Court of Justice or anyone else. The adjective “forced” does not appear in the convention.
I think I recognise a killer argument when I see one. The killer argument here is that Israel’s own legal authority, at the very start, told its government that settlements were illegal under international law.
It’s curious that supporters of Israel would choose to fight on this ground - their weakest.
When I was foreign minister the Australia/Israel & Jewish Affairs Council directed a furious effort at trying to block even routine criticism of settlements, as if this were more vital than advocating a two-state solution or opposing boycotts of Israel. Settlers themselves shatter all sympathy, as on the ABC’s Four Corners on Monday when Daniella Weiss stated they deliberately had occupied land to block the creation of a Palestinian state because “this land was promised to the Jewish nation by God”.
In Louis Theroux’s BBC documentary The Ultra Zionists, religious settlers declared Palestinians an inferior race. “This is the Jewish homeland and there’s never been a Palestinian people,” declared one, standing on a property formerly occupied by Palestinians. In one blast they defied centuries of priceless Jewish liberal and humanitarian instinct.
No one from the centre-Left of European politics is going to do anything other than repudiate this ultra-religious vision. “The kibbutz used to be the symbol of Israel,” a British Labour MP told me. “Now it’s the settlement bloc.” American Jewry is increasingly detaching itself from what it sees as a chauvinist, illiberal strain in Israeli politics.
Kerry warned Israel last month of the danger of delegitimisation, especially after the EU announced any economic treaties with Israel would carefully exclude - one may say boycott - business activity in Israeli settlements.
I know some supporters of Israel would want to point out that there are a range of settlement categories. My response is to quote Israeli prime minister Golda Meir, who once said: “If you’ve got to explain, you’ve lost already.”
In any case, there is available a far more intelligent defence of Israel. Concede that the settlement mission is controversial within Israel. Point out many Israelis are opposed to the settler vision of a greater Israel indefinitely governing a majority Arab population. Give up any argument that settlements are legal under international law and move on to more fruitful territory.
Insist that liberal democracy and shining economic success - even with constant threat of war - are the chief virtues of Israel, a state where six former heads of its security agency, Shin Bet, can appear in a documentary (The Gatekeepers) and criticise Israel’s occupation of the West Bank, a state where its own Supreme Court can overrule its government on use of torture or the direction of a wall opposed by Palestinian villagers, where historians freely challenge their country’s own foundation myth. Where, as Four Corners showed, its military personnel can speak out against the occupation.
In all these respects, Israel presents a benchmark of pluralism and democracy - a formidable one - for a future Palestinian entity. If Palestinians achieved it, they would set off a challenge to Arab dictatorship and theocracy everywhere and realise their own greatness.
Bob Carr was Australia’s foreign minister from March 2012 to September last year and was NSW premier from 1995 to 2005.