..... AND HE DOES NOT REPLY TO TOUGH EMAILS
Sad Really!
But it is my fault: I made his position impossible
Geoff Seidner
There is an arguably brilliant essay hereunder as well.
It is far from complete - but it may be a great read irrespective
Tom also did not deign to respond to this;
see link:
http://socialistdystopia.blogspot.com.au/2014/08/take-extra-day-in-responding-worlds.html
see link:
http://socialistdystopia.blogspot.com.au/2014/08/take-extra-day-in-responding-worlds.html
From: g87
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 4:52 PM
To: Tom Elliott
Subject: Mandela and TU TU WERE NOT CREDIBLE TOM
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OH
– and that Jewess?
She
mentioned that Israel allows Palestinians to study at Hebrew UNI?
OH
– you were on HER SIDE TOO!
HUMBUG!
HUMBUG!
You
are onm everyone’s side – depending on who calls you!!
And
guess what – there is no answer to this!
Here is an un edited essay that fits for you!
Below
Your
tangent about ISRAEL NOT BEING PERFECT IS PERFECTLY ANSWERED!!
WOULD
YOU PLEASE STOP SAYING ISRAEL HAS A RIGHT TO DEFEND HERSELF ... this is a basic
right not needed to be said!
Indeed
a few years ago ISRAEL HAS A RIGHT TO EXIST was the moniker of the
ignorant!!
Or
wilfully ignorant!!
Geoff
Seidner
Oh
– one more thing.
I
sent you info about the settlements
You
plainly are only interested =in Israel haters propaganda because you did not
read it!
SEE
NEXT EMAIL!!
Mandela Was an Enemy of Israel - Op-Eds - Arutz Sheva
Nelson Mandela and Zionism - Algemeiner
South Africa's ANC Lurches Into Anti-Semitism – Forward.com
forward.com/articles/.../south-africas-anc-lurches-into-anti-semitism/?p=a...
[TIMELINE] Nelson Mandela's complex and storied Jewish ...
www.jta.org/.../timeline-nelson-mandelas-complex-and-storied-jewish-rel...
Nelson Mandela: Anti-Semite? Sadly:Yes. - Woman Honor ...
www.womanhonorthyself.com/?p=22029
Bishop Tutu Is No Saint When it Comes To Jews
www.gatestoneinstitute.org/.../bishop-tutu-is-no-saint-when-it-comes-to-j...
Desmond Tutu - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Tutu
Is it Time to Dethrone Desmond Tutu? - Huffington Post
www.huffingtonpost.ca/.../whatever-happened-to-desmond-tutu_b_3450...
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From: Geoff Seidner <geoffseidner@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 12:20 PM
To: Geoff Seidner <geoffseidner@gmail.com>
''You cannot criticise Israel without being accused
of
anti semitism.''
anti semitism.''
The above mealy - mouthed excuse for Jew hatred is often
used by antagonists of Israel to outrageously diminish Jews' right to
their homeland.
Structurally the words may change; but essentially our enemies identify
themselves via this pathetic contrived canard. It is about time
that it was debunked and exposed for what it is: a chimera; a plain derivative of
Jew hatred.
Plain old antisemitism.
Anti Zionism.
Take your pick: it is a grave error to suggest there is a difference that matters.*2
used by antagonists of Israel to outrageously diminish Jews' right to
their homeland.
Structurally the words may change; but essentially our enemies identify
themselves via this pathetic contrived canard. It is about time
that it was debunked and exposed for what it is: a chimera; a plain derivative of
Jew hatred.
Plain old antisemitism.
Anti Zionism.
Take your pick: it is a grave error to suggest there is a difference that matters.*2
1
It is my understanding that it is theoretically; nay - ethereally possible for someone, somewhere, somehow - to claim that their so - called 'criticism' is 'genuine' one and somehow their humanrights are impinged in that this 'genuine,' good natured...ho hum..'criticism' is being vitiated somehow by them not being 'allowed' to promulgate same.
It is my understanding that it is theoretically; nay - ethereally possible for someone, somewhere, somehow - to claim that their so - called 'criticism' is 'genuine' one and somehow their humanrights are impinged in that this 'genuine,' good natured...ho hum..'criticism' is being vitiated somehow by them not being 'allowed' to promulgate same.
'Naturally' these denizens or
champions of the ethic of virtuous criticism DCEV (oh, another avronym!) will
have taken offence at being accused of AS
So here is the first cinchanery.
So here is the first cinchanery.
Merely by claiming that they,
the poor dears are so accused they think / try to gain the upper hand AKA the
mantle of victimhood by say, labelling.
Oh shock horror..... quelle horreur! The left like throwing the label moniker
Xxxxxxx
around ..thanks to ABC
Oh shock horror..... quelle horreur! The left like throwing the label moniker
Xxxxxxx
around ..thanks to ABC
There is no doubt that they ...... the latest incantation of anti
semites who rail against the title , have not reached the depravity of Sydney
university where in the annals or to use a more genteel word devoid of
connotations...corridors..of the playroom of the Peace and Conflated
Studies....they espouse that AS is acceptable.....!
I guess these mavens of boycotterie will eventually progress to the
stage that they will be able with honour to the Nazis... stand for parliament on
the ticket that Hitler did not murder enough Jews and they feel honour bound to
do better!
You see reader... this is not merer rhetorical exaggeration. We have in
Oz already progressed to the utilitarian stage...see above... how far to the
senate? for acceptability?
Is it not sad I say that one has to resort to parody, sarcasm,
rhetoric....... that these entities are not being deprived of human rights in
...via their pathetic claim in effect that Israel is defacto getting an easy
ride... because this is what they are essentially claiming.
At the same time asglibly outrageously using nazi moniker and demanding
more!!!!!!
Is this not obvious that they do not act in good faith?
Is this not obvious that they do not act in good faith?
Let us askk these ignoble entities; exactly what dlse could...should
Israel encourage yo... no enablre you to so plainly venomously spout forth?
Perhaps this is my real message in this
essay
2
[to be edited later
[to be edited later
This phrase is a relative recent
inculcation in media and is seemingly difficult to rebut
because it is set up via the not so obvious classical paradox.
Criticism is reasonable
Vitiating any criticism is unreasonable.
Therefore criticism of Israel is reasonable.
Thus any criticism of Israel is extended given credibility / license!
It plainly, indubitably follows on, non?
NON!!!
It is a surprisingly how effective this ruse has become - a non sequitur that hails
from the dubious idea that an apple is a fruit, a pear is a fruit therefore a pear is
an apple. 1
because it is set up via the not so obvious classical paradox.
Criticism is reasonable
Vitiating any criticism is unreasonable.
Therefore criticism of Israel is reasonable.
Thus any criticism of Israel is extended given credibility / license!
It plainly, indubitably follows on, non?
NON!!!
It is a surprisingly how effective this ruse has become - a non sequitur that hails
from the dubious idea that an apple is a fruit, a pear is a fruit therefore a pear is
an apple. 1
My main concern is that reasonable
people who rail against the obvious deceit
implicit in the title of this essay do not know how to respond.
implicit in the title of this essay do not know how to respond.
Intelligent, brilliant aggression is
the way to rebut it. This seems to be one one
hand obvious and sadly misplaced on the basis that I am suggesting that they
will listen to reason. Indeed inveterate haters will not.
hand obvious and sadly misplaced on the basis that I am suggesting that they
will listen to reason. Indeed inveterate haters will not.
But that misses the point.
Completely.
It is a lot better to attack than what is often proffered by our people:
It is a lot better to attack than what is often proffered by our people:
Too often I hear the phrase 'that you
can
indeed criticise Israel but it has to be
'reasonable' and she must not be held to a
standard higher / not expected of other
people / countries'. Sigh! A certain loser that
by it's very nature almost encourages a distorting rejoinder.
The above is sadly utterly inadequate simply because not
only is it weak, but our antagonists gleefully ignore
it. And Abuse it in the way they abuse all good - faith
comments from reasonable people. Manifestly because
it lends itself to innumerable distortions.
indeed criticise Israel but it has to be
'reasonable' and she must not be held to a
standard higher / not expected of other
people / countries'. Sigh! A certain loser that
by it's very nature almost encourages a distorting rejoinder.
The above is sadly utterly inadequate simply because not
only is it weak, but our antagonists gleefully ignore
it. And Abuse it in the way they abuse all good - faith
comments from reasonable people. Manifestly because
it lends itself to innumerable distortions.
It should not surprise that the case
for Israel is lost
via the inevitable rejoinder by those who brutalize the
naive with innumerable tripe and deliberate lies.
Indeed - it is easy to get around the 'standard
response' because it lends itself to mealy - mouthed
attacks.
via the inevitable rejoinder by those who brutalize the
naive with innumerable tripe and deliberate lies.
Indeed - it is easy to get around the 'standard
response' because it lends itself to mealy - mouthed
attacks.
THIS IS THE BEST IDEA _
HARDLY
RECOGNIZED AS SUCH: IT BEATS
ANYTHING I HAVE EVER SEEN!!
RECOGNIZED AS SUCH: IT BEATS
ANYTHING I HAVE EVER SEEN!!
SO I VERILY SAY: Impeach the integrity, motivations
and modus vivendi of those who
proffer the above plain nonsense.
and modus vivendi of those who
proffer the above plain nonsense.
Challenge them to make single discrete claims
without shifting ground when that claim is proven
false.
without shifting ground when that claim is proven
false.
Put to them that the so - called 'criticism of Israel' is
merely their modern - day derivated justification
for their very being - Jew hatred.
merely their modern - day derivated justification
for their very being - Jew hatred.
Challenge them: so many excellent sources for
proving that Jew Hatred /
anti semitism / anti Zionism and so - called
criticism - of - Israel are essentially the same.
One needs merely to read what the late,
great Martin Luther King Jnr. espoused.
proving that Jew Hatred /
anti semitism / anti Zionism and so - called
criticism - of - Israel are essentially the same.
One needs merely to read what the late,
great Martin Luther King Jnr. espoused.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/douglas-anthony-cooper/martin-luther-king_b_1091950.html
http://cognatesocialistdystopia.blogspot.com.au/2013/11/huff-post-re-ml-king-re-zionism.htm
Note that there are multiple sources for MLK associating anti - Zionism
with AS: but classical distortion is manifest in claims that one of
the sources may have been 'suspect.' There are adequate sources
for his wonderful words. See links above.
http://cognatesocialistdystopia.blogspot.com.au/2013/11/huff-post-re-ml-king-re-zionism.htm
Note that there are multiple sources for MLK associating anti - Zionism
with AS: but classical distortion is manifest in claims that one of
the sources may have been 'suspect.' There are adequate sources
for his wonderful words. See links above.
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